The .35 Whelen is a powerful medium-bore that does not require a magnum action or a magnum bolt-face. I'll give it to the .350 Rem mag. The Whelen and the 350 RM's effectiveness is well known on all manner of NA game including big bears. It's like shooting a refrigerator at them. By Chuck Hawks.35 caliber rifle cartridges have been around practically forever without ever really becoming popular. medium bores like the .35 Whelen, the .338 Winchester Magnum and the old standard .30-06 had much to do with the fate of the .350, but let’s not focus on popularity and talk about performance instead. cartridge with a truncated neck. The Whelen kicks like a mule! The great thing about the 700 35 Whelen is its long mag lets you really stretch out the cartridge with the 225 accubond. I've shot a 35 Whelen in a Remington autoloader but never messed with the 350. Couldn’t agree more, I have two .35 Whelen’s, a Remington 700 Classic and a custom modern mfg. The round will kill anything on the continent ! I didn't find the recoil intolerable, but certainly more than any of my deer rifles have. At 2.800” C.O.A.L., the 350 Remington Magnum is a true, short action magnum cartridge. The .35 Whelen: America’s premier medium-bore, non-magnum, game-getter. Mag. I prefer the Whelen myself for the nice smooth loading out of the magazine. Two of my favorites TreeStand , unlike Dewman I love the little 600 Remington's but he is right they kill on one end and cripple on the other! Short to Medium Range the 35 Rem is hard to beat with little recoil. Not excessive, just more than I cared for. No Remington at all..35 Whelen is far more available. I don't own a Whelen yet but hope to in the future. and .358 Norma Mag.) Link/Page Citation In 1964, Remington decided to go out on a limb and alter conventional magnum cartridge design. .350 Remington Magnum. Rush is gone when we need him most, that voice that could only be silenced in death. Mag. The bigger .35s are excellent for elk but are just too much recoil for deer when faced with close range timber hunting. .350 Rem Mag is virtually non-existent except for one Nosler load at $62.99 per 20 at Midway. When working with a .350 Rem-ington Magnum, one quickly runs into discussions of case capacity and magazine length. Welcome to Field and Streams's Answers section. The pump had a very pretty stock. I can load my Whelen down to .35 Rem., .358 Win. While I don t have the breath of experience of some of the other users on here. In life Rush could not be silenced because he told it like it was... RIP Rush. The bigger .35s are excellent for elk but are just too much recoil for deer when faced with close range timber hunting. His loyalty to his 350 as an elk gun borders on fanatical. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. They kick a bit less than .338 and .375 magnums, but penetrate deep into large animals. The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm). The 35 whelen is a bolt gun and in a Ruger #1, the 350Rm came in meany bolt guns. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I like the .35 caliber for woods hunting. Here you will find hunting, fishing, and survival tips from the editors of Field and Stream, as well as recommendations from readers like yourself. At the time of its introduction the .350 Remington had a short, fat case, similar to the current crop of short magnums except that the .350 carries a belt.Its closest competitor, the .35 Whelen was still just a wildcat from a necked-up .30-06, so the .350 Rem was the most powerful .35 caliber around, and in a short cartridge that allowed the use in compact quick-handling rifles. 303 Savage 35 Remington. In 1965 Remington made a further radical move, introducing the Remington 600M, chambered for a cartridge of their own design, the .350 Remington Magnum. For that reason I think it gets the nod over the 350 rem mag but they both deserve there props ! Recoil and muzzle blast not much different with same rifle configuration. The 35 Whelen is a fine cartridge found in Rem pumps, Rem auto loaders and Bolt actions. Also keep in mind that -35 Whelen and the 350 RM are ballistic twins -35 Whelen cases can be formed from 30-06 I like the .35 Rem in those situations in a nice light rifle. The 350 Rem Mag is a very good cartridge IMHO I killed several deer and a few turkeys with it before I let it go. Mag. check out the. I like the .35 Rem in those situations in a nice light rifle. You can get WAY MORE maximum effective range out of a 7mm Mag and slightly less recoil! Collapse. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The .350 Rem. There was a big difference in where the 200 vs the 250gr bullets hit. The .358 is vastly underated as the Whelen. But if you just want something with a bit more of coolness factor and more thump on both ends, the 350 Rem Mag might fit the bill better for you. Filter. I wished I had a different one on hand so I could have swapped stocks and then sold the 35. The lumbering 200g to 250g bullets seem to cut through underbrush better than all the smaller calibers. The 35 Whelen hits vary hard and always leaves a nice exit hole. 35 Whelen Remington "Semi" for 2006 - model 750 Woodsmaster Got this info from some forums "south of de border". Collapse. a 250 grain .358 caliber bullet at 2500 fps is enough for any bear. Single Shot 223,243,270,06,308 to 357 Maximum, 358 Win or 35 Whelen Of coures the same can be said for the 338-06, or the 9.3X62. Time. This cartridge was based on a standard 2.5” belted magnum case (e.g. Although, this seems to be another very close match up. The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 Springfield, which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm).This cartridge is more powerful than its parent, especially in killing power on large game. Both good cartridges. Mag. X. I'm partial to the 35's. This cartridge is more powerful than its parent, especially in killing power on large game. Think of it this way. The 350 RM is nothing more/nothing less than the 35 Whelen in a shorter guise. 270 & 30-06 35 Whelen. And Hornady and Nosler make brass. History. Not a lot of tracking involved with PROPER shot placement. I used a .338 mag for many years and now when hunting moose bring a 7mm rem mag and a .350 rem mag which is darn near the same as the Whelen. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. I keep seating the bullet shallower trying to get it closer to the lands and in the end stopped because it is barely in the case. This page was generated at 08:24 AM. RE: 7 mag or 35 whelen I have hunted moose most of my hunting career. And don't forget to check out the latest reviews on guns and outdoor gear on fieldandstream.com. The .35 Whelen is a powerful medium-bore rifle cartridge that does not require a magnum action or a magnum bolt-face. Also have a Remington 673 in .350 Remington Magnum that’s pretty much the same thing in a … Mind you, the chances of finding any in small places are slim. Deep in the Ozarks The.35 Whelen and the.350 Rem Mag are virtual twins, ballistically. Duck Creek Sporting Goods has active Remington brass back orders on: 17 Fireball, 204 Ruger, 222 Remington Magnum, 257 Roberts, 6.5 Remington Magnum, 7 mm STW, 7 mm RUM, 300 SA Ultra, 300 RUM, 300 Weatherby Magnum, 8 mm Remington Magnum, 338 RUM, 35 Whelen, 350 Remington Magnumn and 375 RUM. The.35 Whelen is simply the.30-06 necked up to.35 caliber, so you'll never run out of basic brass if you handload. Bolt Actions 223,243,270,06,308 to 338 Federal, 338-066,358, 9.3 X 62 Mauser or 35, 375, 400 Whelen, 350 Legend. $47.49 per 50 for Nosler brass. By Chuck Hawks. The origins of the .35 Whelen are controversial even today. Using the same case head diameter of the.223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a.357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. 35 Whelen VS 350 Rem Mag. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. Enter the 350 Legend. Like the 45-70, that would be a gun I'd tote down here in bear territory. Remington’s I've shot a 35 Whelen in a pump Remington and the 350 Rem mag in that short little Remington bolt gun with the ugly stock that guys wanted to sell me. It is strange how a person can be thought of in so many different concepts. However, there are some differences that might hold some sway for a hunter trying to decide on one or the other. In my pic is 35 Whelen with 225 and a 375 Ruger at what is max col for standard long action. Love em, and they hammer stuff. For the longer action, I like the 9.3x62 in these similar cartridges. Winchester Model 95 that started life as a .30-06. I've narrowed it down to the 350 rem mag. The 35 Whelen can be found in all types of rifle actions and I find the recoil to be tolerable . For that reason I think it gets the nod over the 350 rem … The short barrel and light weight made it doomed from the beginning but they are really cool to look at! The 35 Whelen is a fine cartridge found in Rem pumps, Rem auto loaders and Bolt actions. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ for information on posting and navigating the forums. Page of 2. ... when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. With a longer barrel, the cartridge delivers ballistics which are knocking on the door of the longer.35 Whelen, albeit in a shorter, fatter cartridge. It shot very good to 300 yards, which was as far as I shot it. If you want to go long range there are A LOT of rifles that will smoke the 35 Whelen in the long range category with less recoil. I prefer shooting it out of a little heavier rifle too to minimize recoil with the big bullets. http://www.johntaylormachine.com/others.html. 760 Remington 243, 300 Sav & 308 358 Winchester. Whelen's favorite rifle in this caliber--and one he owned until his death in 1961--was a custom job built on the 1903 Springfield action by Howe in 1922. Because of its sleek design, our 200 and 225 grain AccuBond® will not work in rifles with standard magazines. Posts; Latest Activity; Photos . Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Recoil made me pass both up. The 2-3 deer that ran only went 30-40 yds and the blood trail was very heavy. .35 Whelen vs .350 Rem. I've listened to him for last 25 years. Rush was thought to be a great person by many, but also detested by those... All times are GMT-5. Federal, Hornady, Barnes and Nosler load ammo. The .350 Magnum was loaded by the Western Cartridge Company, but the .35 Whelen remained a wildcat until it was domesticated by Remington in 1987. I can attest to seeing first hand what a .35 whelen will do to whaitetail deer out of a marlin lever gun. In fact Remington reintroduced the splendid .350 Remington Magnum a couple of years ago in the model 600 carbine series." He still lives in Colorado and hunts both rifles every year. First, we wanted to explore a medium-bore cartridge comparison, pitting the .35 Whelen versus the .350 Remington Magnum, two rounds weve not tested in the magazines history. At the time of its introduction the .350 Remington had a short, fat case, similar to the current crop of short magnums except that the .350 carries a belt. https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rush, If this is your first visit, be sure to I think if I lived in bear country it might be my rifle of choice and I wouldn't hesitate to use it as my go to elk rifle. Hmm. When comparing the ballistic capabilities of the .35 Whelen with the .350 Rem Mag, the differences are largely academic in terms of their potency on big game. Its closest competitor, the .35 Whelen was still just a wildcat from a necked-up .30-06, so the .350 Rem was the most powerful .35 caliber around, and in a short cartridge that allowed the use in compact quick-handling rifles. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by GunGoBoom, Oct 27, 2005. If your rifle is a single-shot, or will accept longer cartridge lengths, this bullet is an excellent choice for the 350 Remington Magnum. was a short, wide offspring of the 7mm Rem. The .35 Whelen is not legal for dangerous game in some African countries, but in unrestricted areas it has performed very well. I love all of the 35 bores. Heck, a 30-30 would be fine. or shove 250's out fast enough to make you recoil conscience. 7mm Remington Magnum) but shortened to 2.171” and necked up to .358 caliber, the first short magnum. For your hunting scenarios that you've described, a 35 Remington would be fine. Have had 35 whelen ackley, 350 rem mag, and 350 Rigby. I used IMR 3031 for my reloads with 200gr and 250 gr bullets, just because I had a bunch of it on hand. The 250 grain slugs are what made the Whelen’s reputation. 225 gr @ 2700 will handle anything in NA, 250 yd zero you just hold on hair out to 300. I guess it where your taste lies but the Remington 600 with the high gloss lamented stock , the dog leg bolt and the rib made for a exotic look. While the 375 has more of everything (KE, velocity, RECOIL, etc.) The round will kill anything on the continent ! (.357 Mag., .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. The list of effective 35 rifle calibers include the 35 Remington, 35 Winchester, 358 Winchester, 9 x 56mm Mannlicher, 9 x 57mm Mauser, 350 Remington Magnum, 35 Whelen, 350 Rigby Magnum, 358 Norma Magnum and the 358 STA. Second, we have been curious to see how Remingtons three-year-old CDL line fares against the companys standard-bearer, the BDL, which began in 1962. Search. IMR4064 56.0 grs and Accurate 2015BR 54.0 grs with the 225 gr PT are both excellent powders. The 600 and 660 were all but gone by 1970, but the.350 remained an option in the Model 700 rifle. [3] However, gun writers and shooters of the time were not yet enamored of the short-fat concept as they are … Short action on the 350 Rem would get my nod. The 338/06 when compared to the .35 Whelen only beats it with the lighter bullets and not by much. My cousin Doug bought that 350 and later bought the 6.5 Rem mag in the same gun. Mag. Nobody can replace him. to achieve its potential..35 Whelen. 35 Remington .358 LR 35 Whelen .358 LR 35 Winchester .358 LR 350 Remington Magnum .358 LRM 351 Winchester Self-Loading .351 SR 35-284 Winchester .358 LR 356 Winchester .357 LR 357 Automag .357 LP 357 Herrett .357 LR 357 Magnum .357 SPM 357 Maximum .357 SPM 357 Sig .356 SP 358 Norma Magnum .358 LRM 358 Winchester .358 LR 35-8mm Remington Magnum Also look at the 358 Winchester: